News and notes
Posted on May 12th, 2008 – 7:38 PMBy Chip Scoggins
The Gophers football team announced a few news tidbits today. I’m still on vacation so sorry about being so slow to post them.
– Sophomore WR Tray Herndon has been granted his release and will transfer. I’m not too surprised to be honest. I heard immediately after the season that he was not happy and considering leaving. I talked to someone very close to him during spring practice who said Herndon was strongly considering that option. Herndon played in all 12 games (with 7 starts) as a true freshman but he had only three catches the last five games and would have entered next season way down the depth chart.
– The Gophers have named QB Adam Weber, WR Eric Decker, DE Willie VanDeSteeg and LB Steve Davis as 2008 captains. That’s two seniors, a junior and a sophomore.
– Defensive line coach Tim Cross was promoted to associate head coach.
– The team annoucned four game times: Northern Illinois at 6 p.m., Illinois at 11 a.m., Northwestern at 11 a.m., and Iowa at 6 p.m.
281 Responses to "News and notes"
Brewster seems to like night games. Last year 4 of the 7 home games were under the lights. Looks like the trend may continue this Fall.
Tough for some of us outstate guys with Sunday morning committments to make it when the game is over between 10:30-11:30pm.
Brewster has no control over the kickoff times, all set by TV.
One of the main reasons I do not pay much attention to the recruiting reports, besides the obvious fact that the guys who run these things are only out to make a buck and do not know anything more about football talent than any other former part time mailmen, is shown quite clearly by Trey Herndon leaving after one nothing season.
All recruits come and go, perform or don’t perform, are more often over hyped and declared “future stars” way too often.
The “fastest 18 year old in Florida” is gone faster than a speeding bullet. A “can’t miss” becomes yesterdays superstar gone puff. Nothing worse than hype.
A Brewster recruit if memory serves me right. Remember how he was going to real in a few “hidden gems” right away?
reel in….
Another member of DAC-off’s all-world, 17th ranked recruiting class won’t make it to campus this fall.
The Loon says:
May 12th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
reel in….
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Looks like Michigan will be reeling in Bryce McNeal.
Another member of DAC-off’s all-world, 17th ranked recruiting class won’t make it to campus this fall.
Although he’d spent time committed to Minnesota, Gayden wasn’t part of the final class. He’d never signed and was looking to grayshirt, now it looks like he’ll spend two years in JC before likely joining the team at Minnesota.
I see Loonie is at it again. Did you know he dreams of coach Mason every night? Brewster can out-recruit Mason if half his class leaves and Loonie knows it. Loonie fell in love with Mason’s 32-48 Big Ten record. Quite an accomplishment.
Loon…get a life.
Recruiting - where do your see Gayden listed here?
http://minnesota.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2008&School=46
You don’t. He didn’t sign because his grades were iffy. He was not a part of the recruiting class!! Word is he being ‘placed’ there by Brew and will be brought in if his grades are in order and he does well.
People need to stop Brewster bashing and support the team AND the coach that is here.
Loon and recruting are delusional. Herndon wasnt even the fastest florida recruit in that class. His name was Harold Howell. And Gayden never signed and didnt count toward the class. He is heading to JUCO instead of gray shirting. Maybe if you didnt get kicked out of recruiting websites you would know what your talking about.
Loonie - Herndon was a late, 2 star pickup by Brewster after he saw how bare Mason left the WR cupboard. Try using some facts in your “I still love Smilin’ Glen the best” posts.
eagle eye: so you want to get back into the Mason didn’t atnicipate what the heck brewster was going to do to throw away the 2007 season? It really doesn’t matter waht Mason left…brewster was going to scrap everything and toss that season away. He thinks he still has another throw away season coming to him…after all, he talked how bad things were for TWO years at carolina.
No…Mason left him plenty to win with IF he would have actually cared enough about the players that were there. Those kids played within a td or so in SIX of those stinking games that brewster threw.
You want to try to blame Mason for brewster’s incompetence on game day Saturday in 2007????? Sorry, brewster went to the spreadsy/wedsy/easty/westy/dink ‘em/coast offense. As a result, he did his throw away season routine in 2007.
That brewster is the biggest whiner and blamer I have ever heard of. You are one of his agents eagle eye….I/m not buying your spin. The 2007 season goes on brewster and brewster alone! He was the gm/recruiter (he sure as heck wasn’t a coach.) He got paid for the 2007 season. He threw away a LOT of chances to win ball gameAs a result: he needs to win a LOT of Big Ten ball games in 2008.
You aren’t getting by with making excuses for brewster and trying to blame anyone else. brewster screwed things up in 2007 all by himself. He took the gig…he takes the heat!
Oh just what we needed to hear….Loon and wren badmouthing Coach Brewster and the Gopher football program again.
I think it’s funny both of you profess to be these diehard Gopher fans and all you do is badmouth the coach without even giving him a chance. Mason’s team struggled his first year too as the team adapted to different schemes and won only 3 games but you weren’t jumping off the ledge then. I think both of you guys have an agenda here to villify Brewster and it stinks.
Give Brewster a chance and support the coach and team!!!
Eagle Eye says:
May 12th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Loonie - Herndon was a late, 2 star pickup by Brewster after he saw how bare Mason left the WR cupboard. Try using some facts in your “I still love Smilin’ Glen the best” posts.
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But back then, he was “a sleeper, a diamond in the rough, a hidden gem, undiscovered talent, unbelievable find” that only the highly skilled talent scout named brewster could possibly sniff out.
buckshotmike (rivals.com) says:
May 12th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Loon and recruting are delusional. Herndon wasnt even the fastest florida recruit in that class. His name was Harold Howell.
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Do you mean Harold “papa fumbles” Howell, who was to be the next Gale Sayers-Billy “white shoes” Johnson-Devin Hester of kick/punt returners??????????????????? He must be fast, because I didn’t even see him on all of those break away runbacks last year?!!! Flash…..gone….TD………. All I recall is his Wisconsin fumble. 
Sure hope he does a better job holding onto junior than he does footballs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You go Brewster, you recruiting SOB!!!!!!!
Gold Rush says:
May 13th, 2008 at 4:25 am
Oh just what we needed to hear….Loon and wren badmouthing Coach Brewster and the Gopher football program again.
I think it’s funny both of you profess to be these diehard Gopher fans and all you do is badmouth the coach without even giving him a chance. Mason’s team struggled his first year too as the team adapted to different schemes and won only 3 games but you weren’t jumping off the ledge then. I think both of you guys have an agenda here to villify Brewster and it stinks.
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Thats because mason didn’t show up here screaming Rose Bowl this and Rose Bowl that every 30 seconds and then proceed to flop like a carp to a 1-11 record. “Struggle?”
Tom D. says:
May 12th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
I see Loonie is at it again. Did you know he dreams of coach Mason every night? Brewster can out-recruit Mason if half his class leaves and Loonie knows it. Loonie fell in love with Mason’s 32-48 Big Ten record. Quite an accomplishment.
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0-8???????????????????????????
Tom D. says:
May 12th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
I see Loonie is at it again. Did you know he dreams of coach Mason every night? Brewster can out-recruit Mason if half his class leaves and Loonie knows it. Loonie fell in love with Mason’s 32-48 Big Ten record. Quite an accomplishment.
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Soon to be 0-9!!!!!!!!
Hey Recruiting a/k/a moron, Pantherhawk, Loon, Wren, Bud, loser as well as several other aliases:
The last 5 posts were written by you - the sad part about it is they weren’t even directed toward you. So now who’s the obsessive-compulsive poster??
Tray Herndon - worked hard, but saw very little playing time in the spring game. He played less of a role in the last few games (Big 10 games - that’s all that matters). I think a person has to be honest with themselves and ask if there’s a future. I think for Tray, there was but as a back-up. He’ll do well somewhere else….somewhere that doesn’t run a spread. Best wishes to Tray on his future endevors.
Hey goldrush: that eagle eye character triied to come in bashing Mason and he tried to blame brewsters miserable 2007 record on Mason. Here is a clue you bashers: Mason wasn’t even around in 2007. aIt was totally brewster’s baby. IF he would have won some games, you bahsers and mobbers most certainly would have been hyping that. Well, here is a fact: brewster didn’t win ball games that he should have won…the close games and he will FKOREVER be responsible for his record. You dudes and dudettes can NOT have it both ways. brewster bought the house and he is responsible for what he did with the house. He tried to convert the house into something it was not built for and all of his attempted conversions came back to haunt him during the 2007 season. It wasn’t the former house’s owner who was responsible for the fact that brewster attempted to use the house for something it wasn’t built to be.
That’s the deal gh/gi/boosters. Quit trying to blame Mason for ALL of brewster’s problems. When you quit doing that, we can quit having these discussions about brewster’s incompetency and inadequacy during the 2007 season. You guys are like broken records. And every time you try to play that broken record: the 0-8 Big Ten record of brewster’s will HAVE to be looked at again! You need to quit making the excuses for brewster. Is he a coach or is he just a hyped up used car salesman who can’t coach his way out of a wet paper bag?
2008 will give him a chance to learn from his mistakes. He NEEDS lots of Big Ten wins.
Rescooter was the only post above that had any sense behind it. You idiots ruin this blog with the same crap over and over.
Mason is gone. Brewster is here for at least 2 more seasons. Get over it.
We are in the last year of the Metrodome, then into a beautiful new stadium. Isn’t there ONE THING you can be positive about?
Yeah right.
GoGophers - Thanks!
I also noticed the gametime of last game in the dome(Iowa), 6:00. That is going to be one wild game!
Well another one bites the dust. Interesting that of the 2007 BREWSTER recruiting class, the only two starters have now left the team. C. Brewster, D.O., Spry, H. Howell, T. Herndon, and C. Thomas. That would be 25% of Brewsters first recruiting class gone after one year. The rest of the 2007 class was already committed to the U before Brewster was named head coach. I know you Brewsterites say that he did not have enough time to come in after he was hired to put together a snappy class, but you would have thought with his crack coaching staff they would have been on some great players. After all you had Hammock coming to us from No. Illinois after two years of college coaching. Butler coming to us from Harvard after 4 years in the Ivy league. Cross from Syracuse after one year of college coaching. Lewis after his G.A. duty from Texas, where I am sure he had a boat load of leads on recruits not already committed. Lee, who had been fired after one year each at Wisconsin and Michigan. He had it pretty easy on the recruiting trail in 2006 & 2007. I am sure P. Meyer brought a lot to the table in 2007 with that recruiting list he brought in after being at UW-Oshkosh for 7 years. Withers came from the NFL and stayed for a cup of coffee. Dunbar who was at Cal. for one season. And McDonald who came to the U. from Western Michigan after one season. Stanford before that for one season and No. Illinois before that for 2 seasons. T. Herndon caught 22 balls for 200 plus yards and one touchdown in 2007. Will that be difficult to replace? Probably not, but the fact still remains that with each one of these players leaving the program and the way the ARP works, we are going to be facing the lose of scholarships. You can blame it on the previous staff, but every new coach coming into a program knows that the NCAA changed the rules because retention is the only indicator of graduation. If a player sticks it out for 4 or 5 years they usually walk with their degree.
Game times are set at this time of the year by the University. They are subject to change based on the BT television contract which we still have no idea what is going to happen with. The BT and Comcast are still fighting over the details. Did we not hear the same thing last year at this time. The BT needs Comcast on hell of a lot more than Comcast needs the BT.
brewster is responsible for EVERYTHING about the Gopher football program starting in 2007. THAT is what I have been saying. You bashers/mobbers/gi/gh/booster dudes and dudettes who keep trying to bring Mason into the equation are the people who need to just stop trying to make excuses for brewster. His record IS what his record IS. He has no one to fault or blame. He IS all that there is. Everything that happens happens on HIS watch. For better…or…for worse.
He gets NO mulligans. EVERY game is his…win or lose. He needs a LOT of Big Ten wins because they are the games that you bashers and mobbers and boosters count…and the ONLY games you count. Oh yes, and he needs TIG TIME bowl wins NOW!
Rescooter says:
May 13th, 2008 at 6:52 am
Hey Recruiting a/k/a moron, Pantherhawk, Loon, Wren, Bud, loser as well as several other aliases:
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Oh yes, dumbass, there can only be one person on the planet who sees your precious punk for the jag-off he is?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
I don’t think any of the posters above are Brewster-lovers, they are just saying give him a chance. But all of you Brewster-haters get so offended by anyone else who doesn’t hate him like guys do. Of course he has to take the majority of the blame for last season, but give the guy a chance. Analyzing the 2007 season is a waste of time, move on and let’s focus on what happens in 2008!
Finally, if Mason was such a good coach, WHY DOESN’T HE HAVE A HEAD COACHING JOB NOW!!??!!
I think I read 2 decent posts. The rest sound like a couple of kids crying.
Maybe he is collecting a very nice check and doesn’t have to put up with the b.s. that U of M administrators, boosters, gi/gh members are so fond of trying to spew.
The administrators aer writing him some pretty nice checks and they did it to themselves.
Sit back and rake in that U of M General Fund $$$$$! Sounds like a pretty good gig to me! Oh yes, also do color on the Big Ten Network and pull down more coin from another job.
There are a lot of ways to do things. quite frankly, ANYONE who takes this U of M head coaching job goes through a meat grinder. Just ask bierman, Warmath, Stoll, Salem, hoax, (hoax couldn’t wait gto get the hell out of the U of M coaching job you people DO realize) Gutey, Wacker and Mason. It is a graveyard of college coaches…thanks to the various administrations over theses many, many decades. Hang the administrations in effigy! Curse their names. THEY are the football program and what has happened to the football program at the U of M. They have used and abused football coaches for a LONG time now. brewster will just be the latest one to be chewed up and spit out by the U of M administrative machine.
Wren - I actually read your last post and I’m a little confused. You constantly tell us that all that matters is Big10 wins. How many Big10 wins did Mason, Wacker, and Gutekunst have?
Yet you say that the only thing that matters is Big10 wins??? Perhaps the Administration is doing their job and getting us Big10 wins….the only thing that matters, right?
Please lay off the administration and also quit talking out of both sides of your mouth.
Mason was 32-48 without the new stadium and while taking over a program that had not been to a bowl game in many years. Who could not do better than that? Well, we are at 0-8 and counting.
As I have said before, if we were running an honest program I would be happy to support this AD and his coach. Mason is gone and Brewster is here. I will not be supporting what Brewster is doing, just as I would not have supported what Mason was doing if Maturi had been honest about the games being played. He was not.
Wow, I leave for a week to go hunting anf fishing and come back and it is the same old garbage in here. Glad to see nothing ever changes here.
On behalf of Gopher fans/supporters everywhere, can Mr. Loon please resign his “allegiance” to Gopher football? We’re sick of you and your terrible attitude toward our team. You might as well be an Iowa or Wisky fan, we think that highly of you.
Rescooter says:
May 13th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Wren - I actually read your last post and I’m a little confused. You constantly tell us that all that matters is Big10 wins. How many Big10 wins did Mason, Wacker, and Gutekunst have?
Yet you say that the only thing that matters is Big10 wins??? Perhaps the Administration is doing their job and getting us Big10 wins….the only thing that matters, right?
Please lay off the administration and also quit talking out of both sides of your mouth.
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0-9!
Gophs08, if the job Mason had taken was not up to your expectations you would have bashed him for that also. You and the others fool know one on this site. Give poor little Brewster a chance. That would have been fine if he had not come in here saying all the things he said. Now I will give him credit, he has toned it down a lot. I believe he has because he realizes now that he is in a fight for his coaching life. He is a first timer as a head coach and his leach has been shortened by going 1-11 (0-8). People will not have much patients with another repeat performance or anything close. You have to admit that most of these posters want to push all the blame back on the previous staff and expect that all will be rosy once Brewster gets his guys in here. It could be to late if we allow to happen what happened after Holtz left town and Gutty was given the rains. Just because we had some success with Mason does not mean we had turned the corner. We were winning and going to bowl games. Brewster was brought in to take us to the next level not tear it all down and start from scratch. We will lose the national recognition we had if we put 2 or 3 losing seasons together.
How many Big 10 wins does everyone think Michigan will have this year? If anyone here actually follows college football you would all know that Michigan is having one heck of a time right now under Rich Rod. Transition is part of the game of college football now, get use to it.
Rich Rod will be 4-8 this year. The Gophers will beat the Wolverines. The differences between offenses is like night and day.
They’ve also had a few key players transfer. Many don’t like his style. Wolverine fans are not very patient and the honeymoon will be over after 2 or 3 games.
Here’s the Big10 records:
Gutekust: 18-28-2 .391
Wacker: 8-32 .200
Mason: 32-48 .400
If the only thing that matters is Big10 wins, none of the last 3 coaches were above .500. We needed a re-look.
By the way, the academics have improved under Brewster.
G1–Coach Rod is a proven winner. I think Mich will go 5-7 this year but in future years they will be an absolute monster to contend with. I see national championships in the making there. Year one and two will be tough but look out after that.
Texas, that is what I am saying. You have to give these coaches a chance to get their systems and their players in place…a transition. Thse transitions don’t just occur here at the U, it is everywhere.
As I have said, if in two/three years we don’t see a big improvement on the field I to will be calling for Brewster’s head as well. But as of right now, I know he is trying to shape this program for how he envisions it and that cannot be done over night. It takes time. I guess I can’t fault a guy for having a vision and making an attempt to make that vision a reality. Go Gophs!
G1–agree 100%
Besides the Gophers schedule, the most intriguing matchup is Ohio State V USC in early Sept. The Gophers play OSU 2 weeks later. This may be a pipe dream, but wouldn’t it be great if both teams were undefeated for that 5th game??? I’m not saying we will win the game, but it would give the U some great publicity.
Some of the people on this board must be awfully stupid, since they have to keep reminding each other how good Mason was and how terrible Brewster is. The rest of us all picked up what you think back in DEC. We will live in the future and go from there and not hash over your old crap. Grow up and quit cluttering up this site. Most of us are tired of your juvenality, or senility.
GOPHER1 says:
May 13th, 2008 at 8:59 am
How many Big 10 wins does everyone think Michigan will have this year? If anyone here actually follows college football you would all know that Michigan is having one heck of a time right now under Rich Rod. Transition is part of the game of college football now, get use to it.
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5 to 6 including 1 over the Punkmeister……
Rescooter says:
May 13th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Here’s the Big10 records:
Gutekust: 18-28-2 .391
Wacker: 8-32 .200
Mason: 32-48 .400
If the only thing that matters is Big10 wins, none of the last 3 coaches were above .500. We needed a re-look.
By the way, the academics have improved under Brewster.
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God you are a moron, Toots! 0-9 = .000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those Mason recruits are the ones holding up the GPA of the football team….give it a year or 2 of those CC and JUCO rejects!
Texas Gopher says:
May 13th, 2008 at 9:41 am
Besides the Gophers schedule, the most intriguing matchup is Ohio State V USC in early Sept. The Gophers play OSU 2 weeks later. This may be a pipe dream, but wouldn’t it be great if both teams were undefeated for that 5th game??? I’m not saying we will win the game, but it would give the U some great publicity.
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Don’t learn, do ya boy? All you brewster lubbers were touting that at this time last year!!!!!! OSU vs MN, both undefeated…..Sat night game…….could be college game day material!!!!!!!! lol
littlebigboy says:
May 13th, 2008 at 9:55 am
Some of the people on this board must be awfully stupid, since they have to keep reminding each other how good Mason was and how terrible Brewster is. The rest of us all picked up what you think back in DEC. We will live in the future and go from there and not hash over your old crap. Grow up and quit cluttering up this site. Most of us are tired of your juvenality, or senility.
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Hmmmmmmmm….who needs to be reminded of 1-11, 0-8 soon to be 0-9?
It’s the same old boring stuff by the Masonites. Like it or not Brewtser is here for three years. Brewster inherited a team which was predicted by experts to finish dead LAST in the Big Ten, so I’m not going to say Armedgedon is here after one year. This year will be a more telling sign where the program is at.
Recruiting—I think it is realistic to think we could be 4-0 going into that OSU game. Your cynicism apparently knows no limit. Your posting seems to be a waste of time to me.
–God you are a moron, Toots! 0-9 = .000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those Mason recruits are the ones holding up the GPA of the football team….give it a year or 2 of those CC and JUCO rejects!–
So Mason gets credit for the player’s living up to their educational duties, but Brewster takes the blame for the smart, but not so athletically talented player’s skills? Seems fair to me…
–Brewster inherited a team which was predicted by experts to finish dead LAST in the Big Ten, so I’m not going to say Armedgedon is here after one year. This year will be a more telling sign where the program is at.—
Exactly. I’ve been trying to tell someone here the exact same thing, but this person believes that squad had 7-5 talent written all over it.
I have to laugh at Recruiting. His posts are so full of factual errors that he has no credibility.
The last I checked, Brewster’s Big 10 record was 0-8; just ask WREN.
WOW, a lot of ignorance all over these posts. Mason left the cupboard bare. Let’s remember his team was 3-6 and BARELY beat ND State at one point before they reeled off what was a shocking win streak. So you take that team, take away a SENIOR QB, replace him with a FRESHMAN, get rid of a couple lineman, lose 3 starters on defense due to stupidity, and you’re telling me Brewster had a Bowl team on his hands? Give me a break.
And did I hear this right? Because Mason didn’t come in with Rose Bowl aspirations, it was okay for him to go 32-48 in the Big Ten, but since Brewster actually had high goals for this program, he’s worse? So basically, as long as the coach expects to lose, it’s okay to suck.
Rescooter says:
May 13th, 2008 at 11:20 am
I have to laugh at Recruiting. His posts are so full of factual errors that he has no credibility.
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PH has always had problems with facts. He seems to get unbent when people call him on his posting under several names bit. The pigeon fan is obsessed with Gopher sports, then again he’s been kicked off of some Ioway sites too. LMAOR.
Masonites,
People aren’t saying Brewster is the greatest coach ever. They are not saying he is even a better coach then Mason. All they are saying is just give the guy a fair shot.
You guys could be right. Brewster might not be able to survive beyond year three, but let’s give the guy a fair shot. He’s got three years, and one year is too early in coming to a conclusion. I think year two will be a telling sign where the program is headed.
If Brewster inherited a OSU team and went 1-11, he should be fired on the spot. Going 1-11 on a team projected to finish dead last in the Big Ten is not grounds for early termination.
Derek says:
May 13th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Rescooter says:
May 13th, 2008 at 11:20 am
I have to laugh at Recruiting. His posts are so full of factual errors that he has no credibility.
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PH has always had problems with facts. He seems to get unbent when people call him on his posting under several names bit. The pigeon fan is obsessed with Gopher sports, then again he’s been kicked off of some Ioway sites too. LMAOR.
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It gets no lower than being kicked off an Iowa site!
I don’t believe Math is an offered major at the University of Iowa.
Perhaps they teach it, but he was absent that day.
Tim hits the nail right on the head, “So basically, as long as the coach expects to lose, it’s okay to suck.”
No, Scooter, I don’t even think they have a one-day program. They needed to eliminate the Math Department in a budget cut so they could pay Ferentz’ salary, and the team’s legal fees.
Rescooter says:
May 13th, 2008 at 11:20 am
I have to laugh at Recruiting. His posts are so full of factual errors that he has no credibility.
The last I checked, Brewster’s Big 10 record was 0-8; just ask WREN.
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OK, one more vote for the Gophers beating OSU at Columbus this season from Scooter!!!!!!!!
Recruiting, you are way to easy to mess with. In fact, by having you post here, the average IQ of this board drops 5-10 points.
Here’s the deal: I gave you too much credit regarding not being able to count. The real problem is you are unable to reason. So let me get this straight….Minnesota should not even bother to play Ohio State because you’ve got us pegged to lose. You really are stupid.
I’m not even going to respond to your obsessive/moronic posts. It’s a waste of time and bandwidth.
Jimbo - I have no idea what they’re teaching in Iowa. Even if we dumbed down simple mathmatics…like count the felonies or count the number of pretty women in the state, they still would get it wrong. I’m glad I didn’t waste my money on a U of I education.
An education from the University of Iowa gets you one of three careers: feeding hogs, detaselling corn, or working in a rendering plant.
mnmike - agree.
The question I have is why they have the 1st political primary.
rescooter,
I figure it’s to make the Iowan’s feel like they belong to the country. I remember an old “Family Ties” episode where the daughter asks the father what the capital of Iowa was. His answer, “Iowa doesn’t have a capital. It’s the responsibility of all the other states to take care of it.”
Gold4, for the last time you Brewsterite. The major predictors of college football do not do their picking until after spring ball. You keep insinuating that the Gopher team was picked to finish last before MASON LOST HIS JOB. The experts only picked the Gophers dead last after they saw who we hired and what he was trying to do. They knew we hired a head coach with no experience as a head coach and he was changing everything. That spells disaster in the BT. Where do they have us picked this year? I have not seen any predictions yet. (May 13)
Hmmm interesting point Bud, that is why all of the national “experts” have picked the mighty Michigan to have a losing record this year. Same exact scenario you just described.
TX, Michigan will win 8 or more games this year because their coach knows how to not loose games. He has been a head coach and he understands that you can not turn the ball over and expect to win many games. He will play to his defenses strength and not put the players in a system they can not handle. Michigan lost a QB who played as a freshman but is not suited to RR offense and a starting O-lineman. He has not had the mass defections that the Gophers had and are still having one year later.
Gopher1, please lead me to you reference source for Michigan having a losing record. I do not know who your experts are but I have not seen that in print. What exact scenario are you referring to Gopher1. RR has been a head coach and he has hired asst. coaches with major college experience. Not much similar to me except for the offense. If you do not think that Michigan will roll into here with a pretty good idea of how to stop the might spread, you have another think coming.
Rescooter says:
May 13th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Recruiting, you are way to easy to mess with. In fact, by having you post here, the average IQ of this board drops 5-10 points.
Here’s the deal: I gave you too much credit regarding not being able to count. The real problem is you are unable to reason. So let me get this straight….Minnesota should not even bother to play Ohio State because you’ve got us pegged to lose. You really are stupid.
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Well gee, MasterMind, when your “coach” can’t even outscheme NDSU for a win at home, wtf are his odds in columbus against number 1????? Follow the trend, DoorKnob, its 0-8.
GOPHER1 says:
May 13th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Hmmm interesting point Bud, that is why all of the national “experts” have picked the mighty Michigan to have a losing record this year. Same exact scenario you just described.
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Michigan hired a self-promoting numbskull with no HC or even coordinator experience, who is running around yapping ROSE BOWL, ROSE BOWL, ROSE BOWL to anyone who will listen??
Bud,
The Gophers were predicted to finish dead last in the Big Ten. Mason coaching MAYBE would have bumped them two spots max in predictions. After the pathetic showing on defense against Tech, I even have my doubts about that.
In the end Brewster did not inherit a very good team.
Bud,
One expert wrote when you bring back a terrible defense and lose three fourths of your offense (Cupito, Speath, Payne), what do you expect? Last in the Big Ten.
Mase was not this BIG factor in predictions like you make him out to be.
brewster is a straight up asshole man. he ain’t going to lead this football team no place no way.
Why dont you all go to a bar and discuss it face to face, make sure to go to a bar that has many chairs and empty bottle laying around…
OK, TNgopher, so it is OK with you that our program is buying players? It is OK with you that we lost every game we played last year except the game that M of O gave us? It is OK with you that we have become all fluff and no substance?
It is not OK with me and I will continue to say so as long as I can. This is going to be another throw away season and if the NCAA gets some evidence, it will be a throw away decade (remember Monson? Double it.)
Thanks Gold4, you have answered the question. We would not have been picked last. Not saying we would have been picked 1 thru 5 either, but we would not have been picked dead last. That selection came on the heels of the Brewster hiring. It looks like we are catching a nice break this year with the BT scheduling. ESPN has their top 25 for 2008 out and there are 5 BT teams in the top 25. OSU, Ill, Wisc., MSU, & PSU, we do not have to play two of them. Didn’t MSU hire their coach at the same time we did? We kick the crap out of them in 2006 and they went to a bowl in 2007. They are in the top 25 in 2008 and where are we? They do not run the SPREAD.
Check out OSU non-conference schedule TX, they play Youngstown,Ohio U., Troy & USC. I would say they have a good chance of being at least 3-1 when we play them. We could be 4-0 and ranked ahead of them before the game. We could even be ranked #1 in the country at that point.
–OK, TNgopher, so it is OK with you that our program is buying players? –
Any proof of that Walter Mitty? If you truly cared about the program, I would expect you to bring this to the school & NCAA’s attention. Instead, you keep babbling on about it anonymously on a blog.
Bud check out the Big Ten preview on ESPN.com, SI.com or any other college source. Rich Rod himself has said this year is going to be a tough year and a losing record is very possible. His first year at WV he only won 3 games. I’m not saying Michigan will win 3 games but they will not win the 8 that you think they will.
Bud,
We still probably would have been picked last by a lot of experts with Mase. MAYBE with Mase as coach could have kept us 10th or 9th in predictions. We still would have been VERY low.
Your dreaming with Mase we could have been as high as 6th. Hello is anyone home. Are you still blaming Texas Tech’s field goal kickers warm ups as the reason we lost the biggest lead in Bowl Game history. Are you still blaming our fans in costing us a ton of New Year Bowl games, then you backed tracked when I proved you wrong.
I think the Masonties can get way more delusional in their thinking then the Brewsterites.
This Loon man or woman is the crazy person in the corner talking to themselves, just ignore and keep about your business.
GOPHER1 says:
May 14th, 2008 at 7:57 am
Bud check out the Big Ten preview on ESPN.com, SI.com or any other college source. Rich Rod himself has said this year is going to be a tough year and a losing record is very possible. His first year at WV he only won 3 games. I’m not saying Michigan will win 3 games but they will not win the 8 that you think they will.
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Now theres a thought! Why not come in and start screaming ROSE BOWL, ROSE BOWL, ROSE BOWL, RETURN TO GLORY, LETS PLAY TEXAS, LSU AND SOUTHERN CAL?? Why not tell everyone how great the D will be?? Tell the AA crowd the D is “going to play like their hair is on fire” and they will “rush the QB like a bunch of hungry dogs headed for the meathouse?” Why not call the special teams “SPECIAL FORCES?” Why be practical, RR, and say your first year “might be a tough one?” Is it because you ARE playing with a full deck??!
OK, Looney Toons, here’s the bottom line.
If you have verifiable knowledge of NCAA violations in the University of Minnesota football program, you should notify the appropriate authorities. A scrupulous and honest man would do that. Sitting smugly in the background, still buying tickets, attending games, makes you as dirty as those perpetrating these violations, and perhaps the biggest hypocrite on the face of the earth.
On the other hand, if you don’t have verifiable information, quit with the innuendos. Not only is it incredibly annoying, it makes you appear even more ridiculous than you already are.
Michigan’s situation is entirely different than the U’s.
They have a gigantic fan base (money) that will always be there and have some of the best nation-wide talent coming in year after year no matter what the win/loss record.
We have neither, this coach was brought in to put butts in the seats and talent on the field. So he wants to play LSU and Texas, maybe that’s because this program has no other national recongnition other than Barber and Maroney.
More people locally and nationally are talking about the Gophers now than in the past 15 or so years. Recruiting rankings may be silly, but they get people’s (and recruits) attention.
More people locally and nationally are talking about the Gophers now than in the past 15 or so years. Recruiting rankings may be silly, but they get people’s (and recruits) attention.
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Don’t you mean laughing at as oppossed to talking about? Mr Kitchen Magician sold fewer tickets last year than in in 2006 despite all his theatrics and gymnastics and having NDSU and WI both here. We have a new stadium opening next season and season tickets are plentiful and being gobbled up by IA and WI fans more so than us! Ya……ROSE BOWL..ROSE BOWL..ROSE BOWL sure worked, didn’t it. Does he think people here are as stupid as he is? His own kid didn’t even fall for his bullshit!!!!!!!
mnmike says:
May 13th, 2008 at 11:14 am
–God you are a moron, Toots! 0-9 = .000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those Mason recruits are the ones holding up the GPA of the football team….give it a year or 2 of those CC and JUCO rejects!–
So Mason gets credit for the player’s living up to their educational duties, but Brewster takes the blame for the smart, but not so athletically talented player’s skills? Seems fair to me…
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PH is just used to JC’s who don’t do their homework. Wasn’t Brad Banks a JC?
Bud says:
May 13th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
. He has not had the mass defections that the Gophers had and are still having one year later.
Would you be ferrering to the 2 of 8 in his “first” recruiting class? Should we really go dig up the numbers of defections the school has had in the past 12 years? I think as a blind Masonite, you wouldn’t like those answers. Why don’t you go dig up the numbers and then post them. I could tell you the numbers right now, but I want to see how far you try to sway reality.
D#mn, I’m almost tired of ripping your ignorant posts.
TNgopher says:
May 14th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Michigan’s situation is entirely different than the U’s.
They have a gigantic fan base (money) that will always be there and have some of the best nation-wide talent coming in year after year no matter what the win/loss record.
We have neither, this coach was brought in to put butts in the seats and talent on the field. So he wants to play LSU and Texas, maybe that’s because this program has no other national recongnition other than Barber and Maroney.
More people locally and nationally are talking about the Gophers now than in the past 15 or so years. Recruiting rankings may be silly, but they get people’s (and recruits) attention.
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Michigan will be placed on probation at some point in the next 3-4 years and that will end Richardrod’s tenure with the Maize and Blue.
Gold04 says:
May 13th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Bud,
One expert wrote when you bring back a terrible defense and lose three fourths of your offense (Cupito, Speath, Payne), what do you expect? Last in the Big Ten.
Mase was not this BIG factor in predictions like you make him out to be.
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Phil Steele, who has predicted cfb the best over the past ten years, wrote the Gophers will finish last in 07 because of turnovers with an inexperienced freshman QB. Funny, what exactly happened last year? How was having a freshman QB Brewster’s fault? I guess we could have started a junior with no experience who tends to throw more ints than completetions…..
Once again Bud’s logic is hown to be illogical and ignorant.
Bud says:
May 13th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
TX, Michigan will win 8 or more games this year because their coach knows how to not loose games. He has been a head coach and he understands that you can not turn the ball over and expect to win many games. He will play to his defenses strength and not put the players in a system they can not handle. Michigan lost a QB who played as a freshman but is not suited to RR offense and a starting O-lineman. He has not had the mass defections that the Gophers had and are still having one year later.
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Does 2 not equal 2 any longer? Bud is on spin city again.
thewrenagain says:
May 13th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Maybe he is collecting a very nice check and doesn’t have to put up with the b.s. that U of M administrators, boosters, gi/gh members are so fond of trying to spew.
The administrators aer writing him some pretty nice checks and they did it to themselves.
Sit back and rake in that U of M General Fund $$$$$! Sounds like a pretty good gig to me! Oh yes, also do color on the Big Ten Network and pull down more coin from another job.
There are a lot of ways to do things. quite frankly, ANYONE who takes this U of M head coaching job goes through a meat grinder. Just ask bierman, Warmath, Stoll, Salem, hoax, (hoax couldn’t wait gto get the hell out of the U of M coaching job you people DO realize) Gutey, Wacker and Mason. It is a graveyard of college coaches…thanks to the various administrations over theses many, many decades. Hang the administrations in effigy! Curse their names. THEY are the football program and what has happened to the football program at the U of M. They have used and abused football coaches for a LONG time now. brewster will just be the latest one to be chewed up and spit out by the U of M administrative machine.
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Where have I heard this before????
I think we should add “0-8″ and “Brewster puposely lost last year” into the thread to make it complete.
Wren says—THEY are the football program and what has happened to the football program at the U of M. They have used and abused football coaches for a LONG time now. brewster will just be the latest one to be chewed up and spit out by the U of M administrative machine.
They, is also you wren.
Scooter says,
“I have to laugh at Recruiting. His posts are so full of factual errors that he has no credibility.”
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Yes, the stupid, filthy pornographer’s posts are a laugh a minute. But what is funnier, crudehogshittt’s lies and sewage or Bud’s “command” of the English language LOLOL? I tried to read a post by Bud and found every other word misspelled.
There is not a third grader alive who is not smarter than Bud, Crudinghog, or Wren combined.
“And did I hear this right? Because Mason didn’t come in with Rose Bowl aspirations, it was okay for him to go 32-48 in the Big Ten, but since Brewster actually had high goals for this program, he’s worse? So basically, as long as the coach expects to lose, it’s okay to suck.”
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You heard it exactly right. According to the pure, vitriolic haters like Bud, Loon, and Wrenbawlbaby the cardinal sin committed by Brewster from Day One was actually wanting to win and to dare to talk about winning.
“People aren’t saying Brewster is the greatest coach ever. They are not saying he is even a better coach then Mason.”
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But he clearly is a much better coach than Mason because 50-60% of the job is recruiting. Mason couldn’t do it and Brewster can.
” … so it is OK with you that our program is buying players?”
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Show some evidence, you slimy backstabbing coward.
LMAO……it does my heart good to come here and see you silly cocksuckers make fools of yourselves! DumbAss Coe, your boy was 1-11 last season and he is a liar and a cheat. You are already seeing this come to bear with players leaving the “program.” 1-11………..1-11…….1-11…….VERY WEAK SPRING GAME! I don’t think you idiots will win a Big 10 game again this year. I called your 0-8 record last year too!!! Go to KFAN and look it up! I can’t wait for 11/22..a night game…….the ass I kick might be yours, DumbAss Coe!!!!! I see a swarm of 10’s of thousands of drunken black & gold warriors pillageing and burning Sewerapolis to the ground while a couple 100 goofer fans stand and watch in tears like in 2002!!!! LMFAO!
Sick, filthy pornographer.
Pathetichawk sounds alot like wren again!
Looks like another little goofer thug gets off with just a slap on the wrist……or is that a needle track? LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.startribune.com/local/west/18933864.html?location_refer=Gophers
–the ass I kick might be yours, DumbAss Coe!!!!! –
Wow! Another internet toughguy. You really need to get a girlfriend/wife.
–a swarm of 10’s of thousands of drunken black & gold warriors pillageing and burning Sewerapolis to the ground while a couple 100 goofer fans stand and watch in tears like in 2002!!!! –
Yeah, right! It’s more likely that you corncob’s will be getting lost & drinving 50MPH in the leftlane on our freeways. After that, you’ll probably settle down for a what you Iowan’s call fine dining (Applebee’s). Enjoy your stay in the big city, woodtick.
Wow, another irrelevant cut and paste by Pantherhogbreath. Impressive.
Wonder why a hayseed Iowa hog farmer and amateur pornographer would cut and paste something about a hockey player when he has never seen a hockey game?
All this BS and not much more. How about the Captains for the 2008 season. Offensively I do not see how it could not have been Weber and Decker. When you look at who might be the starters in 2008, those two guys would be the only sure things. Willie and Davis are two of the 5 returning starters on defense. I guess it could have been Small, Campbell or Hightower. A little tougher choice on defense I guess. Hope the guys can lead them to victory after victory in 2008.
It is quite a tribute to Weber to be named Captain as a sophomore. His teammates must respect his leadership capabilities a lot.
Decker and Willie are obvious choices. And I like the Steve Davis pick but it could have been one of the other returning starters as well. Something tells me Davis is going to be very comfortable at LB this year and will have a big season.
Here’s my take and I may get some disagreement here:
I think it’s a mistake to make Decker a captain. Granted, he’s an excellent player and has great leadership abilities. I can’t however get past the fact that he did not practice with the team this spring. What does that say to the rest of the team….that there are other sports more important than football??
I don’t blame the guy at all for going double duty….just don’t make him a captain.
Sorry, Scooter, I can’t agree with that last post. Not choosing Decker to be a captain because he played baseball almost seems like a disciplinary move. He didn’t desert the team or anything like that. He got Brewster’s permission to play baseball, and I’m sure he had the support of nearly all (if not all) his fellow football team members.
david_allen_coe says:
May 15th, 2008 at 9:31 am
It is quite a tribute to Weber to be named Captain as a sophomore. His teammates must respect his leadership capabilities a lot.
Decker and Willie are obvious choices.
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Like there was much choice, Enis.
Jimbo says:
May 15th, 2008 at 10:14 am
Sorry, Scooter, I can’t agree with that last post. Not choosing Decker to be a captain because he played baseball almost seems like a disciplinary move. He didn’t desert the team or anything like that. He got Brewster’s permission to play baseball, and I’m sure he had the support of nearly all (if not all) his fellow football team members.
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Are you “sure?” Have you been blowing the lockerroom like DAC??!!!!!!!
Sorry, Jimbo, I meant the coach’s corner like DAC!!!!!!
Jimbo, I see both sides of this. You are correct about the “seem like a disciplinary move”, but what can he expect? These guys put themselves out there for the spring game and he’s in Indiana with the baseball team. It just doesn’t seem right to me.
He’s a local guy, great attitude, great leadership, excellent player, but his allegiance is divided. It doesn’t sit well with me.
Last time I looked, Scooter, John Anderson’s baseball team was part of the University of Minnesota’s athletic program. So don’t question his “allegiance.” His allegiance is to the University. It reminds me a little of Dave Winfield playing basketball back in the early 70’s. You make it sound like he was loafing by playing baseball, and further make it sound like going to Indiana is better than being here. I don’t believe playing baseball will have any detrimental impact to his football performance this fall. If anything, I’m sure the conditioning and competition was good for him.
Scooter … Like Jumbo, I am in disagreement. Decker has earned his status and as an exceptional athlete he is contributing on two fronts to the university. He can’t be faulted for that as long as he got Brewster’s OK, which he did.
And granted, being in Indiana is not as bad as holding your nose in some desolate, stinking hog farm in Iowa with the ever-current prospect of needing to shoot a demented pornographer like Cruding, I’m sure Decker missed being at spring football too.
And Scooter, hitting Big Ten fastballs and curves cannot hurt the kid’s ability to catch a football in traffic.
I won’t push it anymore, and I will cheer for Decker as I do for the rest of the team.
One last point to ponder: would your opinion be the same if he got injured practicing or playing?
Yes DAC, at least he wasn’t in that pig stye of a state that sits just south of us. That would really suck.
“One last point to ponder: would your opinion be the same if he got injured practicing or playing?”
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Consider one more point: the odds of him getting injured would have been greater at spring football than in playing baseball. But the injury factor should not even be considered since that is always part of all competitive sports.
Scooter … Have you heard whether Iowa has picked their cell block leaders, ie. Captains yet? How many prisons would Ferentz need to go to to find the guys?
I understand his players are all applying for work release in order to show up on game day.
Oh the glory … 50 years ago it could have been CrudingPantyHoseHogWrenBawl walking out to the center of the field for the Hogs wearing prison stripes.
david_allen_coe says:
May 15th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Scooter … Have you heard whether Iowa has picked their cell block leaders, ie. Captains yet? How many prisons would Ferentz need to go to to find the guys?
I understand his players are all applying for work release in order to show up on game day.
Oh the glory … 50 years ago it could have been CrudingPantyHoseHogWrenBawl walking out to the center of the field for the Hogs wearing prison stripes.
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I’m waiting for the pigeons to bring Brad Banks back as an academic advisor.
Rescooter says:
May 15th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Jimbo, I see both sides of this. You are correct about the “seem like a disciplinary move”, but what can he expect? These guys put themselves out there for the spring game and he’s in Indiana with the baseball team. It just doesn’t seem right to me.
He’s a local guy, great attitude, great leadership, excellent player, but his allegiance is divided. It doesn’t sit well with me.
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I see what you are saying, but I also disagree. Atleast it was an interesting topic unlike the usually babble PH/cruding, Wayne, or Racist/Mr no proof would discuss.
Derek … I am also intrigued with Weber being named a Captain, I assume by his peers. Is there any precedent for a Gopher sophomore being a Captain?
Cupito started as a soph but I don’t believe he was elevated to Captain until at least his junior year and possibly even not until his last year. Do you remember?
I still haven’t heard how the captains were selected. There are many ways to select a captain and I don’t know how Brewster does it. Did Weber’s teammates choose him??? The coaches? Head coach? How he was determined would be interesting to know. Personally, I hope the players voted for him.
Frankly, I thought the Weber choice was interesting, but apparently he is well thought of by his fellow team members. More power to him. I don’t know how many people have seen him on TV or met him, but he is one hell of a good kid, and carries himself extremely well. I’m particularly proud of him because of his Minnesota pedigree.
Don’t know the answer to you Cupito question, d_a(sp)_c.
TX, I’m quite sure the candidates are proposed by the coaches, then voted on by the team. I’m not 100% sure, though.
Jumbo … I agree with Tex that if he was chosen by his peers rather than the coaching staff that would say volumes.
Hey Jumbo … Side note: I took a big step toward normalcy this week with a three-day business trip to Toronto. Felt good to get back into the groove.
Good deal, d_a(sp)_c. And I’m glad to see it hasn’t mitigated your distaste for the Crudeboys, Looneys, Wrens, etc. of the world!
From Gopher Sports.com:
University of Minnesota head football coach Tim Brewster announced the 2008 Gopher captains Monday. The captains were chosen by a vote of the team.
“The captains were chosen by a vote of the team.”
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Great. That’s the way it should be and that tells us a lot about Weber’s stature as a leader among his peers.
And they’re spot on about Willie too. Any guy who can take three Gopher haters to the parking lot at once is a Captain for sure.
david_allen_coe says:
May 15th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
“The captains were chosen by a vote of the team.”
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Great. That’s the way it should be and that tells us a lot about Weber’s stature as a leader among his peers.
And they’re spot on about Willie too. Any guy who can take three Gopher haters to the parking lot at once is a Captain for sure.
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Ummmm……it was 2 and they are about 70 years old.
Headline today ….
“Woodbury man charged with starting fire on Northwest Airlines flight”
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Cruding, Wrenbawls, or LewNeetik?
Were you there shiiteforbrains?
“From Gopher Sports.com:
University of Minnesota head football coach Tim Brewster announced the 2008 Gopher captains Monday. The captains were chosen by a vote of the team.”
Jeez Jimbo - remind me to never get in a debate with you again. You confuse the issue with facts. What’s up with that!!
Hey, Scooter, you made a decent point. I didn’t post the blurb from gophersports.com to refute you, I was doing it to help out Texas Gopher and d_a(sp)_c.
But consider yourself refuted, Scooter! 
LOL!
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Weber being named captain by his teammates is a good sign for the offense this coming season. Shows leadership skills and the team must like/respect him.
Agreed, NYC! I’m hoping for great things from him this year. If he stays healthy and cuts way back on his INTs, he will be a serious force.
“LOL!
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Sorry, Scooter, but ever since I named him Jumbo he has special “size” priviledges. One point for him means,
Jumbo - 1.5
Scooter - 0
NYC … Yes, it shows the team respects Weber’s leadership qualities. But a good sign for offense would be if he can complete some passes this year.
Jumbo says,
” If he stays healthy and cuts way back on his INTs, he will be a serious force.”
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I agree but you’ve got some big ‘ifs’ in there. I would add he will be a serious force also if they move him to safety or possibly running back. Either way, we need him on the field. He’s a darn tough football player.
And I hope to God that Brewster can coach this talent he’s acquired to some Big Ten wins. A couple of weekends back flew home to a family wedding and when we were flying out of Mpls we flew over the Gopher football stadium. Very exciting to see.
Sorry, Scooter, but ever since I named him Jumbo he has special “size” priviledges. One point for him means,
Jumbo - 1.5
Scooter - 0
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I guess we could say that he’s large and in charge. I’m thinking with his new size upgrade, he won’t have to worry about lakesbison’s 255′ daughter stalking him at games.
As a result of considerable effort, weight training and illegal steroids, I have bulked up to 152 lbs. Bring on the big bison woman!
mnmike and Jimbo, if I had verifiable proof of Brewster cheating or Barry Bonds cheating I would take it to the legal authorities. I do not. Taking football recruiting irregularities to Maturi would be like taking a hard run at a wall. His job is “plausible deniability”. If he knows about cheating what is HE going to do? “Lack of institutional control” means penalties and the AD is gone.
My season tickets will be gone if Maturi is extended past 2009.
Loon: so why do you continue to shoot yourself in the foot by making “unverifiable” accusations?
because it is true and that is very important when cheating is involved. I am willing to take the heat. “Peer” approval of my views is not something I care about. My view of history is that the truth is seldom popular.
By the way NYC, were you shocked by the Coon Rapids situation? As you could guess, I would have been shocked if it had not turned out the way it has. True, but unpopular.
Scooter says,
“I’m thinking with his new size upgrade, he won’t have to worry about lakesbison’s 255′ daughter stalking him at games.”
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Well said. Jumbo is the equivalent of a Big Mac Supersize meal.
Jumbo exclaims,
“I have bulked up to 152 lbs.”
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Willie V has nothing on you, Jumbo. You could take three of the Big Bison women out to the parking lot at a time and throw in a couple of gutless pantywaiste Cruding pantyhoses too.
The gutless backstabbing moron says,
” … if I had verifiable proof of Brewster cheating or Barry Bonds cheating I would take it to the legal authorities. I do not.”
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As we all know, you have nothing. You are a gutless sleazebag slanderer. STFU.
I start a reasonable and you guys let the other crap seep back into the discussion. Stay on point and forget about the others. I assume that if Re. would have known about the players selecting the captains then he would not have made his statement? If you remember when Decker committed to the Gophers he was given the permission play both sports. He was an outstanding three sport athlete in high school. As for the captain question Cupito was not a captain his Soph. year but I believe Eslinger was. He was an All Big Ten performer three years in a row.
nyc gopher fan says:
May 15th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Loon: so why do you continue to shoot yourself in the foot by making “unverifiable” accusations?
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Thought you would have been on a plane to CA by now to get hitched and shot in the ass all night on your honeymoon? Just curious…..in a fag wedding, how do you decide who carries who over the threshold?
Some of my clients have made some interesting points and given me pause to think about the up coming season. I was just assuming that things woild be better in 2008 but I have had some interesting things pointed out to me. Offensively I was figuring that we would be OKay but my clients don’t think so. We have one returning WR (Decker). Last year we had Decker and Ernie. In the o-line we had Brink, Shidell & Tavale returning. This year we have Alford w/ 4 starts and if Tavale did win back his position we have Ned playing LG. If not Ned then it is Burris. The rest of the o-line will be rookies. We have no depth at RB and Bennett is not durable. We do have a second year starter at QB. What do you think, better or worse? On Defense we lost 4 starters in the secondary. We have one JC player that was here for spring ball and by all accounts he should be able to fill Dom’s shoes. The rest of the secoundary has not arrived on campus yet and if they end up playing with the players from the spring we are in trouble. We lost 2 starting LBers. Hightower returns with Triplett and Manion, I think we should be as good or better and my clients agree. I know I did not mention S. Davis but he still looks like a duck out of water to me and my clients tell me that he could be used in nickel to rush the QB and we all know that is what he does best. Up Front we had Willie and Campbell with a year under their belt and G. Brown and Small. With the others that come in this fall there should be plenty of depth. The HUGE question is the secondary. The defense looks like it is in better shape than the offense. Not what I had been thinking until it was laid out to me in their terms. We also thought that our kicking game was fine until we saw the spring game. Now we want to fire the kicker and Kucek just had a off day. DAC, if you think the gun snaps throw the QB off, McGarry graduating could be a big lose. Mort was not spot on with his snaps in the game. What do you posters think?
Cruding … Great post, pantyhose. Maybe Iowa will now legalize marriage with farm animals and make you an honest woman.
Bud … Whoever your “clients” are, I think their advice to you is probably worth as much as your advice to them.
Brinkhaus outright ruined or negatively affected more than half the offensive plays. I don’t think Mort or anyone else long snapping will kill us that much.
And please explain how Bennett “is not durable”. Who do you think was out there at running back when Thomas was in the hospital and Pinnix could barely walk?
Your “clients” are probably your “clients” because you think alike. All negative, all day. You guys must have some real exciting business. ROTFLMAO!!!
Loon: If it is true, as you say, why can’t you give us any information to back it up?
david_allen_coe says:
May 15th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Cruding … Great post, pantyhose. Maybe Iowa will now legalize marriage with farm animals and make you an honest woman.
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DAC: Instead of an honest woman, don’t you think it would be a “total boar/bore?”
Bud was so thrilled his “clients” clued him in that Bennett isn’t durable and that long snapper will be our biggest problem this year that he has now issued an official sell advisory on dot.coms. Way to take care of your “clients”, Buddy.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Recruiting says:
May 15th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Just curious…..in a fag wedding, how do you decide who carries who over the threshold?
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Just curious…how do you know which nostril is the last one you ate out of?
I don’t know, I think Bud’s last post was reasonable. I don’t know why he gets the bad rap he does on here. He’s reporting what he saw at the Spring game and isn’t that the sort of information we’re looking for here and I can’t remember if Bennett was hurt last season or not, but since Weber was the leading rusher on the team, things seem a bit lean in the running back situation I didn’t find his last post negative.
NYC … If you can’t recall if Bennett was hurt last season or not, would it perhaps make sense to read more and post less?
Bud knows as much about the Gophers as ObamessiahOprah does.
dac_please no political references
dac, you really are a pig with your constant name calling. Try to be an adult and just stick to the issues.
Here’s an issue we can stick with, Louie. You are a cowardly sleazebag and slimeball for accusing coaches of paying players with no evidence to support it. Let’s stick with that, dirtbag.
NYC … Here are some facts that your buddy ObamessiahOprah doesn’t know because he doesn’t follow the Gophers other than to trash the players and program.
Bennett started the season three deep on the chart behind Pinnix and Thomas. In the first three non-conference games he had a grand total of six carries.
But then Pinnix started hobbling with the turf toe that got worse each week. And later Thomas was lost for the season.
Bennet played eight of the last nine games including seven of the Big Ten games. In those eight games he carried 101 times for 401 yards, including a season high of 106 yards in 20 carries in the Big House against the mighty Michigan defense. He had a great season for an 18-year-old true freshman.
During those same last nine games, Pinnix carried 34 times for 177 yards and Weber carried 104 times for 423 yards. Thomas had 40 carries for 215 yards for the whole season.
Now do you see how stupid Bud is to say somebody told him Bennett is not durable and he believes it? And you believe him?
Bud, I can not recall a year where so many rookies are expected to carry the team. As a veteran fan, you know what I and others know. Rookies, as a group, can not be counted on to win Big Ten games. One might be a top player, but that is both rare and limited to certain positions.
I have no idea why, other than emotions, any one would believe we are going to be any sort of middle Big Ten team. No set O line, no (zero point zero) experience in the secondary. No proven defensive tackles. No proven coaching. And a large number of multi year starters gone.
I will be happy if we beat NIU and see what is possible after that. Given that the NCAA does not come in and carry our whole staff off to prison, I have no confidence in what the near future looks like until we see some real football games played.
SF dirtbag sleazy con artist.
I didn’t say I believed Bud or not. I said that I didn’t find what he wrote to be negative. I didn’t have the information to believe one way or the other. I had to pack for a weekend trip and get to bed. And for the record Obama was a basketball player not a cheerleader like your guy.
Bud–I think you raised some good points. I have stated my top concern is RB depth. I like Bennett a lot but we are very thin there. The situation is going to be a real test/challenge for the coaching staff. Can they get a new influx of talent to mesh with the returners in a short period of time?? And I am not just talking X/s and O’s, I mean as a team also. I see Brewster as a uniter and hope his asst. coaches can do their jobs. Again, that opener is huge in terms of morale/momentum/etc.
Loon—the reason you “can’t remember a year where so many rookies were expected to carry the team” is bc Mason checked out several years ago. I hate to bring that slacker up again, but that SOB obviously did not care about the Gopher FB program.
NYC v. DAC—-you guys are opening a can of worms with your political swipes.
nyc gopher fan says:
May 16th, 2008 at 5:19 am
I didn’t say I believed Bud or not. I said that I didn’t find what he wrote to be negative. I didn’t have the information to believe one way or the other. I had to pack for a weekend trip and get to bed. And for the record Obama was a basketball player not a cheerleader like your guy.
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nyc, you should know better than anyone DAC hates everyone who does not slip on the maroon and gold blinders, and kneel before almighty brewster, unzip his fly and ask,”how many times today, coach.”
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Obamajamma is a dumb fag like you!
Recruiting—I have tried not to respond to your idiocy, but you are a classic homophobe who is repressing your real desire. Just come out of the closet, move on, and try and talk football here.
NYC and DAC: Both of you have my respect. Please don’t get started down the political road. Nothing will get solved and it will ruin the board.
As you can see, Recruiting is jumping on the political bait opportunity. That should tell you something.
Great pictures of the stadium on gophersports.com. I’ve got them as a screensaver!
DAC, if you are really recovering from major surgery then you should take this advice. If all those words are swirling around in your head, then the healing process is being slowed. You could do much better with staying out of the gutter and thinking pure thoughts. Just some advice that you probably will not take. Bennett did go down in one of the non-league games and he did not finish the NW game because of an ankle sprain down on the goal line. You act like I said he is not a good player and that is not what I said. He did fumble in the spring game and limped off the field never to return in the spring game. Maybe that is what my clients are referring too. If the posts upset you so much maybe you should stay off for awhile until you are healed.
Tex … Don’t worry so much about the running backs. We have several and they will be serviceable if not great. Bennett might be great.
Strap on your helmet and play defense, Tex. That is where we will win or lose. And on offense, worry about finding a quarterback who can complete short passes to keep drives going.
Scooter says,
“Nothing will get solved and it will ruin the board.”
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OK, I will heed your wishes although I am slightly confused how anything I or NYC could say would “ruin” a board polluted by backstabbers, liars, and purveyors of misinformation and pornography.
Bud … I am not in the gutter. That would be you and your friends who have no goal here other than undermining Gopher football. That is the gutter.
In your never-ending attempt to trash our players you said Bennett was “not durable”. The fact is he was the only running back we could count on most of the year. If he is not durable, what would you say about Thomas and Pinnix?
Your comment is just another attempt at misinformation to drag down the program.
If you want me to be civil to you, quit stabbing our players and coaches in the back.
The Loon says:
May 15th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
mnmike and Jimbo, if I had verifiable proof of Brewster cheating or Barry Bonds cheating I would take it to the legal authorities. I do not. Taking football recruiting irregularities to Maturi would be like taking a hard run at a wall. His job is “plausible deniability”. If he knows about cheating what is HE going to do? “Lack of institutional control” means penalties and the AD is gone.
My season tickets will be gone if Maturi is extended past 2009.
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Let’s hope Maturi’s contract is extended, if for nothing else, to get this scumbag away from the program.
Lets hope that Bennetts Soph. year can live up to the likes of the top five Soph. all time,T. Redmon 2000,1,368 yds., L. Maroney 2004,1,348 yds., T. Jackson 2002, 1,317 yds., MBIII 2003, 1,196yds., some of those names are not house hold words in MN. Great for an 18 year old might be a little strong, solid would be the word most would use.
I knew you could not refrain from coming after me and taking my advice would have been out of the question. I do hope you get better.
Bud … Perhaps I could have phrased that more precisely. By “great” I meant within the framework of the spread. We are not going to have running backs carry the load like the guys you mentioned in our system. We don’t have the offensive line for it either.
Bennett can be very good as an offset to the QB throwing to receivers on short routes. If Weber or whoever plays QB improves over where Weber was last year, then Bennett could be much better too.
Bud … Take your advice? Who on God’s green earth would take your advice about anything?
Advice on what? How to fill a bicycle tire? How to train a rabbit? Just exactly what is your area of expertise?
You remind me a lot of an old fella who many years ago offered me advice on how to operate a chain saw. I noticed he had one arm missing from the elbow on down and three fingers gone on his ‘good’ hand. I declined his advice too.
No Tex, I am not going to let that slam of Mason go by.
Our football program has been in a constant state of flux now for several years. Recruiting has been hurt by the constant state of the head coach having no future here. Brewster is the first coach we have had in five years who has a contract that would carry him deep into the future of the players he is trying to recruit. This has been a flat out stupid policy pursued by Joel Maturi.
I have been saying this same thing for years. This is NOT Ohio State where anyone can come in to coach and just reload and have a killer team. Here, we really need, at the very least, long term stability, the new stadium, a middle Big Ten budget, a legal climate of no scandals and a veteran coach who has a national reputation.
Instead we have a coach with no reputation other than as a “Zook like recruiter”.
You guys got what you wanted, Mason out. He did really help us to get the new stadium. As Eye and others have correctly pointed out, we are now back into the cycle of changing coaches every few years, constantly “building” towards some future team that will win all our games.
As I have repeatedly pointed out, the spread is not working here with the players who are left from a ball control offense. I will not allow any unchallenged remarks, to the effect of yours, that Mason or anyone else is responsible for the offense YOU wanted that is not working here with the players Brewster inherited.
Brewster is the only head coach we have now and it is HIS responsibility to win here with the reality HE has here. That he has not won here is HIS fault, HIS plan, HIS changes, HIS mistakes.
You guys have a full force mess on your hands now for years to come. You were warned by me and others. You wanted the right to make changes and you dragged it out for years. Now YOU have what YOU wanted.
The reality was always facing you, if “anyone could easily do better than Mason” that person would be held to that standard. Now go out there and start to win some football games without the NCAA sending your guys to prison.
You might also thank some of us veterans for getting you the new stadium. Which, I might add, you are well on your way to screwing up by starting off with a losing team. (I warned you about that danger as well.)
Go to it Tex, win those games. This is what YOU wanted. With the control, comes the RESPONSIBILITY.
Looney Toons, I’m not a lawyer, but I’m quite sure the NCAA does not have the juristiction to send anyone to prison.
Profanity is the crutch of a poor communicator. The only thing you hold onto DAC is your name calling and back handed jokes, which only you think are funny. Enjoy your life. I was only trying to help you out if you indeed had brain surgery. You are the expert on all things in the spread so I hope you are correct in your evaluation.
Running back is the one position on the team that freshman can come in and make an immediate impact. Wether they will or not is another question. But it is the one position that pure talent can make an impact right away. If we can get some decent line play Loon could carry the ball?????????????
In the spread, the running back is not as much of a factor. Play execution is the key. There are very few straight up power runs…most of the running game is misdirectional. You need a mobile quarterback who usually ends up getting a fair share of the yards.
Being thin at experience in the running back position is not as much of a factor. The quarterback on the other had would be a real problem.
This ain’t no place for politics or religion, unless the religion is Gopher football. I took his bait and woke up on the wrong side of the bed and I will make every effort to keep politics outta here.
Side note: MnMike, you’re the UVA grad, right? going to UVA this weekend, any recommendations on what to see?
Cheers
Loon’s standup comedy act contains,
“the spread is not working here with the players who are left from a ball control offense.”
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Hilarious, Louie. Like the guys Mason left could run a ball control offense any better than the spread? That’s hilarious.
Face it, pal. MAC talent is MAC talent. Period. Doesn’t matter what offense you are trying to run with guys who don’t belong in the Big Ten.
Brewster’s job is to bring in talent that can play in our conference. He is off to a great start on that.
Bud … Thanks again for your good wishes. But let me assure you that nothing helps me mend more than ridiculing the lies and misinformation put on this board by you, Wren, and Loon. That is great therapy.
Littlebig says,
“If we can get some decent line play Loon could carry the ball?????????????”
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Maybe … until the NCAA finds out the rotten little thief stole the ball from a sporting goods store and puts him in prison where he belongs.
But on a more serious note, the beauty of the spread is that the O line does not need to be overpowering as in a ball control offense. Backs are working more in space and the defense cannot pack the box (if you have a good quarterback who can hit his receivers on short slants and outs).
All the concern about the offense and running backs and offensive line actually comes down to the guy playing quarterback in the spread. He either makes it work or fail.
Florida runs the spread, correct? Why does Coach Meyer say that they did not win enough games last year because of their running back situation? Didn’t the