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Wednesday (Roy Rubin) edition: Wha’ Happened?

Posted on January 9th, 2008 – 8:21 AM
By Michael Rand

000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001reuben.jpgNot much has gone right for the McLovins this year. Yes, we know it’s that kind of hard-hitting, think differently analysis that you love about this blog. But after last night’s gripping victory over the almost as inept Miami Heat (now featuring Ricky Davis on vocals, Mark Blount on the glockenspiel and Shaq in the oversized street clothes!) not only snapped an eight-game skid but also proved once and for all that Randy Wittman is no Roy Rubin. The infamous 1972-73 Philly squad that won just nine games was initially coached by Rubin, who led them to exactly four victories and a mere forty-seven losses. Yes, he was 4-47 before being canned. Indeed, please read from the linked piece:

He was a bad coach,” says Harvey Pollack, the 76ers’ longtime media-relations director and now the team’s statistics director. Pollack believed Rubin lacked the background to run an NBA team. Alan Richman, who covered the Sixers for the now-defunct Philadelphia Bulletin, figured 1972-73 would be rough. “They had nobody who could put the ball in the basket,” says Richman, alluding to the defection of Cunningham and his 23.3 scoring average, and the loss of Clark a year earlier in a trade with the Bullets. You knew they were going to be bad, but you had no idea they were going to be that bad.” The Sixers, whose roster included the likes of Manny Leaks, Jeff Halliburton, Mike Price, John Q. Trapp and Dave Sorenson, started the season 0-15 and later lost 20 consecutive games. With his record at 4-47, Rubin was replaced by Sixers player Kevin Loughery. The new coach inspired the troops to a 5-26 record and a .161 winning percentage, compared with Rubin’s .078 mark.“Anybody who looks at us wouldn’t believe I’ve coached a day in my life,” Rubin moaned before being dismissed.

Well, Randy Wittman is now 5-29 this year, positively not Rubin-esque, or even Rubenesque. (If you do nothing else, please follow that last link. You will not be sorry). Take that, Roy Rubin.

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FYI: Not to steal Stu’s thunder, but we’re working on what could be the greatest Hunt Down ever, with an actual interview to boot. You can buy the entire seat, but you’ll only need the edge!

59 Responses to "Wednesday (Roy Rubin) edition: Wha’ Happened?"

jama says:

January 9th, 2008 at 8:26 am

Typical McLovins, they need the Heat to win and make the playoffs so they get that draft pick, and what do they do, they beat the Heat.

Doesn’t this regime understand the big picture? You don’t beat teams that you need to get on a roll. Common sense people, common sense.

jama says:

January 9th, 2008 at 8:36 am

I [redacted] hate Reuben’s!

jpf says:

January 9th, 2008 at 8:39 am

Without a fully healthy Shaq, they arent going to make the playoffs unless they play the Mclovins every game for the rest of the season and even if they get the most ping pong balls and an extra Heat pick, it only means that theyll pick 4th and take Ndi Ebi’s brother… By the way, hopefully Stu’s huntdown is Ndi Ebi….now that would be engaging.

jama says:

January 9th, 2008 at 8:40 am

Not to sound too sexist, BUT girl’s high school sports can be pretty painful to watch. That being said, this game had to of taken the cake. I sure hope all sharp objects were out of reach of the spectators.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/preps/13551431.html

roughkat says:

January 9th, 2008 at 8:42 am

Any link that mentions both economic theory and baby eating is a link worth following…

roughkat says:

January 9th, 2008 at 8:42 am

BTW - I’m also against the tall tax for obvious reasons.

roughkat says:

January 9th, 2008 at 8:44 am

Were those girls playing basketball or lightning?

Dave MN says:

January 9th, 2008 at 8:49 am

It’s not even 9 a.m. and I am hungry for that sandwich. Marble Rye is the Cadillac of breads.

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 8:52 am

A few months back, I gave this site to a woman friend of mine, and she sometimes reads it w/o commenting. Anyway, I told her to get some snappy name like MnGirl, but she thinks the whole deal here is childish. I told her she was childish Nahnah…

She did make it down to the burb on “The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness”. She said she believed that and it made her sad…what a hoot !

jpf says:

January 9th, 2008 at 8:53 am

If the McLovins played Savanah ST., who would win?

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/recap?gid=200801070288&prov=ap

jama says:

January 9th, 2008 at 8:55 am

P3

The water seal is for your deck not drinking. Where do you come up with this stuff?

jpf says:

January 9th, 2008 at 8:57 am

Jama, layoff him, youve heard the old saying…”One man’s Acetyl alcohol is another man’s whiskey”, havent you?

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 9:07 am

jama..true story. She thinks this whole site is whacked..thinks that about all “blogging” really …the better question than where I get this is why she still reads it sometimes, and why very few women do even though many like sports. She told me once that she likes when I exaggerate my rap and get y’all going….(women like bad boys you know) but what I wrote was true since she called me this a.m. before leaving for work about it..

jama says:

January 9th, 2008 at 9:29 am

On a side note, with that picture staring me in the face, what is you favorite sandwich?

While flipping through the channels yesterday I noticed the food network had a whole show on how to make a sandwich. I didn’t know it was so complicated.

Stu says:

January 9th, 2008 at 9:32 am

we’re working on what could be the greatest Hunt Down ever, with an actual interview to boot.

A Hunt Down with actual journamalisming? Perish the thought.

Stu says:

January 9th, 2008 at 9:33 am

RE: Rubenesque Personals.

Johnny Sack’s wife approves.

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 9:34 am

French Dip or Reuben…TGIF’s have both..good price and very tasty and jama …I didn’t make that up though I am looking for my Thompson’s to make a blender drink this morning ;)

jpf says:

January 9th, 2008 at 9:37 am

I like a good steak sandwich, or the Patty melt at the Bierstube…comes on garlic pumpernickel bread…mmmmm, delightful.

jama says:

January 9th, 2008 at 9:42 am

I think I would have to go with either the Patty melt, cheesesteak or Perkin’s Chicken Tender Melt. That Chicken Tender Melt stopped many drunken cravings while I was in college so I’ve got a soft spot for it.

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 9:45 am

I’m on a diet after pigout Xmas, New Year’s, Bowl games (I need no occasion to eat) so I can (hopefully) keep running some races in the Spring so big pics of Reubens don’t help esp. since no decent place (besides Denny’s :( ) that serves Reuben’s is even open…

AZGopherGirl says:

January 9th, 2008 at 9:47 am

Any time you have to start a post with “not to sound too sexist”, pause, think about it, and realize that you probably do. (Replace sexist with racist, homophobic, narcissistic…same rule applies.)

I’ve actually been thinking about the point that P3 makes (which really worries me that we’re on the same train of thought on anything.) Why am I here? I have no answers. I just keep coming back for more.

The thing I like best about this blog is that it’s not pages-long pointless arguments (P3 excluded) of why the spread is terrible, what the coach should do differently, or why you, as a middle-aged out-of-shape accountant would know how to run a team better. BORING! Oh, that and open dialog on topics like, what’s your favorite sandwich, that you just can’t get anywhere else.

jpf says:

January 9th, 2008 at 9:57 am

Well come on AZ, give us your favorite sandwich.

fasolamatt says:

January 9th, 2008 at 9:59 am

Really, the Grum and the Grumsteer are the best sandwiches ever, with the Turkey Ridge a close third. The Hard Hat is good, too.

Grum’s Sub Shoppe
1776 Coventry Road
Cleveland Heights, Ohio

Dave MN says:

January 9th, 2008 at 9:59 am

I have a love for a good tuna melt. Oh man, the one at Grumpy’s is awesome (and reasonably priced). I’m also a fan of the Tuna Melt at Town Hall (it’s their Friday lunch special. An open-faced take on tuna melt).

I also dig the Dante’s Inferno at Maynard’s in Excelsior, although it seems they don’t have it on the menu anymore (Pastrami, spicy mustard, pepper jack, raw onions on marble rye).

Dave MN says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:00 am

That does it, I’m going to Grumpy’s for lunch.

AZGopherGirl says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:01 am

I like meat as much as the next guy, but nothing beats a good grilled cheese. I highly recommend the ones at the Peppermint Twist in Delano, with tomato.

Dave MN says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:04 am

AZ - I’m with you on the grilled cheese. But I’ll see your tomatoes and raise you onions.

I’m going to regret writing that last sentence…

jama says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:08 am

AZ

I apologize about the sexism, I knew as soon as I wrote that somebody would say exactly what you did. That being said, have you watched a high school girl’s basketball game lately. Imagine another 70 free throws and you have what many would say is the Apocalypse!

74 Free Throws for one team? Who were the refs Allen Iverson and Dwayne Wade?

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:12 am

Az, how can I get more women into this blog ? I suspect they might join to read my free ranging intellectual discourses on the multivariate nature of sport, but some of the women I have shown it to think it juvenile (true) You must not think so, so what can you say to them, these women runners I know, that is, so they don’t think this is only a scrotum scratching site though I, personally, see nothing wrong with that at all…

Dave MN says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:17 am

so they don’t think this is only a scrotum scratching site

I don’t know what your computer is doing, but mine doesn’t have that feature.

danonymous says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:18 am

Funny that you’re pandering to the fairer sex now, P3. Since you were the one that acted like and Grade A assface towards the women from Babes Love Baseball some time ago.

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:19 am

gotta special order it. It goes under the code name “Joy Stick”

AZGopherGirl says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:19 am

jama - your comment didn’t bother me; not as much as Dave talking about my tomatoes. And, I reluctantly have to agree with you…

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:23 am

dano..don’t remember babes love baseball, but I probably did say whatever you remember, since most men are ambivalent towards women (Jung) and vice versa…that’s why so many “make ups to break up” happen…as a therapist w/o ambivalence, w/o “I hate you/I love you” all counselors would be working at Cub

Dave MN says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:24 am

Shamed into silence

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:24 am

also dano, I wasn’t pandering. I was just wondering what to say when fem friends came over and scrolled down the responses and dismissed the whole schtick as juvenile. “So what” I say..”Your point “

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:26 am

Dave ?

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:32 am

One of the unresolved issues with sexism is, unless you know many outspoken women, career women who are veery comfortable with themselves, there is every bit as much, probably more sexism directed towards men from women than vice versa.

As a therapist in many settings, I almost always have worked with a majority female staff and their manner of sexism is just a touch less inyaface, a touch more discreet, that’s all. More power to them that way. They probably get involved in fewer discrimination suits but let’s not put any sex on a pedestal here…there is plenty of Dave’s shame to go around..

Dave MN says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:32 am

Just kidding, I will not be shamed by my enjoyment of tomatoes and grilled cheese. Nor by my inadvertently inappropriate innuendo (alliteration!).

AZGopherGirl says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:44 am

I think one reason I’m here is that my female friends aren’t into sports as much as I am. I work from home, so you guys are like my watercooler conversation.

I would never presume to speak for all women, but here are my thoughts on how to attract a female audience (Rand, I’ll await my check for targeted marketing consultation):

1) Never use the word scrotum again. Ever.

2) More man candy photos (the shirtless Yankee one DOES NOT count, nor does P3 in the Packer jersey). Would it kill you to put Tom Brady’s mug up once in a while? Throw a girl a bone.

3) (Don’t hate me, Dave.) Limit video game references. While I suspect I would kick ass at guitar hero if I ever played, Tecmo Bowl just isn’t typically a girly thing.

4) More sports gossip. I can’t believe CJ scooped Rand on Larry Fitzgerald’s alleged illegitimate kid with a Raider cheerleader. Girls like dirt.

5) Joker’s women woes are humorous and provide us lots of opportunity to set him straight. Keep ‘em coming.

Stu says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:52 am

I don’t know if this whole “attracting female readers” thing is wise. I can’t vouch for the veracity of this claim, but my friend on the playground told me that girls are “gross.” If true, this seems to cut against any potential benefit offered by increased numbers of uterine-Americans.

jama says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:54 am

Speaking of grilled sandwiches, has anyone ever grilled a peanut butter and jelly sandwich? If you haven’t you should, it is a top 10 favorite for me.

Dave MN says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:55 am

AZ - I don’t hate you for wanting to limit video game references. I try not to go too crazy, the fact that I received Guitar Hero as a present and the updated version of Tecmo Bowl came into my knowledge at about the same time probably made it seem like 90% of my comments were video game related recently. I was a little overstimulated on the video game front.

In the future, I will try to stick to whatever the hell it is I normally talk about on here.

Dave MN says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:56 am

jama - Grilled peanut butter and bananas. I can’t decide if it’s lunch or dessert.

jama says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:57 am

Doesn’t Joker have to have a women to have women woes?

Stu- Copyright the term “Uterine-Americans” you would become a millionaire. Also it’s the cooties that are gross not the “Uterine-Americans”.

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 10:59 am

AZ, by saying P3’s Packer Jersey doesn’t count does that mean you only want pics of a hunkahunka burnin’ love ? Wowsah !! Also, scrotum ?..is ballz better ? and hearing the woes of men done bad by dirty love you LIKE to hear ?

Well, gal, this isn’t really then a SPORTS blog for you since working at home your life is more like “Days of our Thighs” !! No wonder the runners I hang with who read this stuff think we’re all whacked. To me, I’d rather talk sports no matter how trivial, now matter that I burp doing it or what I scratch typing it then wait for a little cheap JPEG titillation. My, my my girl. You’re probably not the femrole model these women need to see…

Dave MN says:

January 9th, 2008 at 11:00 am

Mark my words, you* will hear “Uterine-Americans” on Oprah or The View at some point.

* By “you” I mean no one on this blog, except those who watch “The Soup”.

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 11:14 am

Dave, it’s Okrah

danonymous says:

January 9th, 2008 at 11:47 am

Paulos, you are a racist. If you are going to respond by saying that you aren’t a racist please explain why changing Oprah to “Okrah” without a reference to southern food and culture would be funny.

Dave MN says:

January 9th, 2008 at 11:56 am

Just to distract from the coming firestorm, take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX2m0oZv1rc

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 12:58 pm

because she is fat…and fat comes from food…and plenty of whites eat okrah ….I think you’re digging in your own poopoo here

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

besides Okrah just sounds funnier just like dano, the short form of your “name”, sounds like the flunky detective on 5 - 0…book ‘em

ramon says:

January 9th, 2008 at 1:08 pm

Without trying to sound too pertinacious, what this town (meaning either both side of the river) needs is a good Jewish/Kosher deli. A Katz’s or 2nd Ave. And I grew up with the original Lincoln Dell and Bernie’s Deli so don’t go on about Cecil’s.

Here’s an old NYT article about Roy Rubin. Note the number of ironies. The fact it’s the Heat and not the Wolves, then scroll down to the fourth paragraph. Then scroll down and get his comments on culpability. It’s the GM stupid, not the coach.

Paul Peter Paulos says:

January 9th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

I also must come clean. I never liked this woman after the Color of Purple (Purple Hmmmm), but that has zip to do with race. I think she’s a horrible interviewer. I think she bribes her all female audience to squeal (and what kind of feminism is that) by telling them they will all get a book or CD discussed on the show. That part really bothers me, and the rest is her patronizing know it all arrogange particularly with the “experts” she trots on. And personally, though this is also not racist, I can’t look at her in closeups (just try it and see what I mean…it’s on in 3 hours)…can’t look since her eyes are so wideset she looks like a cow ..not a white cow, not a black cow…so there …that’s why I don’t like Orkrah…satisfied ?

ramon says:

January 9th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

“meaning either side of the river”… damn sinus headache.

PPP - your knowledge of Oprah implies you watch her quite a big and have followed her career. IMHO she doesn’t even compare to Phil Donahue.

jama says:

January 9th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

She struggling to hang with Ricky Lake.

jama says:

January 9th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

*Rickie

Doodee says:

February 1st, 2008 at 11:46 pm

Thanks for sharing

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February 7th, 2008 at 6:44 am

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