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Did Bill James suggest ‘87, ‘91 Twins tainted by steroids?

Posted on April 4th, 2008 – 1:09 PM
By Michael Rand

baseball.jpgBill James knows a lot about baseball. Nobody is going to argue that his nugget-filled abstracts are a fun read for stat geeks. We have only spoken to him once, for an interview several years ago, but we enjoyed it. That said, Bugs & Cranks unearths a passage from The Bill James Gold Mine 2008 that is, frankly, rather controversial and out of character. We have not read the book, but we’ll trust the account. From B&C, quoting the book:

“Two of the greatest home run under-producers of all time were teammates: Kirby Puckett and Gary Gaetti in 1984. Puckett hit no home runs (-16), Gaetti hit only 5 (-19). Suggesting the possibility that the Twins’ two World Championships may have been aided by their team being among the first to discover … well, I’d better not go there. Nor will I point out that Gaetti was bald and had acne and Puckett died young.”

That seems like pretty circumstantial “evidence,” and we do use that term lightly, to throw that kind of line into print. And again, it raises our chief red flag about statistics, sabermetrics and the like: sometimes there are dots to be connected and conclusions to be drawn based just on numbers; and sometimes, there’s a whole different range of mitigating factors for which numbers on a page can’t account. Is Puckett’s home run pattern worth a discussion that most people would rather not have? Perhaps. But not like that.

9 Responses to "Did Bill James suggest ‘87, ‘91 Twins tainted by steroids?"

roughkat says:

April 4th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

Obviously not worth a discussion.

StraightCashHomey says:

April 4th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

I choose to believe that “rotund” is not the type of shape that steroids put one in.

Stu says:

April 4th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

Didn’t both titles come before the advent of HGH and PEDs?

StraightCashHomey says:

April 4th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

And Gaetti was also no longer a Twin in ‘91.

jama says:

April 4th, 2008 at 2:22 pm

Unless Pabst Blue Ribbon is a PED I think the Twins were clean.

Fred says:

April 4th, 2008 at 2:33 pm

“Unless Pabst Blue Ribbon is a PED I think the Twins were clean.”

I think Hrbek, Gaetti, and Brunasky were Schmidt guys.

jama says:

April 4th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

There’s no way Hrbek would be caught dead drinking a Schmidt, he drank PBR or Grain Belt and that was it.

JGreg says:

April 4th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

Used to be the Twins were all Hamm’s guys. I still think TC is the Hamm’s Beer Bear in disguise.

studes says:

April 5th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

We have not read the book, but we’ll trust the account.

Why would you trust the account. The writer of that headline obviously doesn’t understand what irony and sarcasm are. This is a big brouhaha about nothing.