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	<title>Comments on: The Great Commuter Challenge: I&#8217;m a loser, baby</title>
	<link>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/</link>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: botski</title>
		<link>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13834</link>
		<dc:creator>botski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 17:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13834</guid>
		<description>DGB sed: "Ex-hippies, slackers, people who can’t succeed, are the ones who bicycle. They can’t make a difference in the ‘real world’ so they are determined to disrupt the status quo to get attention"

Comments like this make me fearful of growing old and lonely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DGB sed: &#8220;Ex-hippies, slackers, people who can’t succeed, are the ones who bicycle. They can’t make a difference in the ‘real world’ so they are determined to disrupt the status quo to get attention&#8221;</p>
<p>Comments like this make me fearful of growing old and lonely.</p>
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		<title>By: barryS</title>
		<link>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13794</link>
		<dc:creator>barryS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13794</guid>
		<description>http://svbcbikes.org/btwd/ceochallenge

Yes. So many ex-hippies, slackers, and people who can't succeed on this list of CEOs that biked to work on Monday.  Damn them all for their non-success!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://svbcbikes.org/btwd/ceochallenge" rel="nofollow">http://svbcbikes.org/btwd/ceochallenge</a></p>
<p>Yes. So many ex-hippies, slackers, and people who can&#8217;t succeed on this list of CEOs that biked to work on Monday.  Damn them all for their non-success!</p>
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		<title>By: yuki</title>
		<link>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13780</link>
		<dc:creator>yuki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13780</guid>
		<description>I either take the bus or ride my bike to work.  So according to DGB I am "trash / bums / nut jobs / gang bangers'" and an ex-hippie, slacker and person who can't suceeed.

Thanks D!  I feel so good about myself right now.

Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I either take the bus or ride my bike to work.  So according to DGB I am &#8220;trash / bums / nut jobs / gang bangers&#8217;&#8221; and an ex-hippie, slacker and person who can&#8217;t suceeed.</p>
<p>Thanks D!  I feel so good about myself right now.</p>
<p>Wow.</p>
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		<title>By: DGB</title>
		<link>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13763</link>
		<dc:creator>DGB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13763</guid>
		<description>David says: "I’m calling DGB on this one. It’s a clear example of the ignorance and bigotry that’s far too prevalent in our society. Care to hop on a bus and tell folks they’re just dirtbag gangbangers?"

I'll tell you David, most everyone wants their own personal space, away from anyone else.  Public transportation is probably the worst possible situation.  I grew up in NYC and Philly.  I wouldn't ever do it again.

Count how many CEO's bicycle to work! 

My theory: Ex-hippies, slackers, people who can't succeed, are the ones who bicycle.  They can't make a difference in the 'real world' so they are determined to disrupt the status quo to get attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David says: &#8220;I’m calling DGB on this one. It’s a clear example of the ignorance and bigotry that’s far too prevalent in our society. Care to hop on a bus and tell folks they’re just dirtbag gangbangers?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell you David, most everyone wants their own personal space, away from anyone else.  Public transportation is probably the worst possible situation.  I grew up in NYC and Philly.  I wouldn&#8217;t ever do it again.</p>
<p>Count how many CEO&#8217;s bicycle to work! </p>
<p>My theory: Ex-hippies, slackers, people who can&#8217;t succeed, are the ones who bicycle.  They can&#8217;t make a difference in the &#8216;real world&#8217; so they are determined to disrupt the status quo to get attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13760</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13760</guid>
		<description>And as far as comparing forms of transportation, each person has his/her own experiences.

My commute is more than 4 miles. Occasionally, bike riding that much  has been a pain in the rear. But driving my car to work has often been been a bigger pain in the rear.

You sit on a freeway, and then roll a few inches and stop... Roll a few inches and stop. Roll a few inches and stop...  ...Then the ambulance and police car squeeze by to scoop up the pieces of car and driver off the pavement, because the driver thought that text-messaging was more important than watching what he was doing. Then we roll slowly past the flatbed with the big smashed-up pop can being loaded up... and everybody gawks.
And we call this efficient? Ok...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as far as comparing forms of transportation, each person has his/her own experiences.</p>
<p>My commute is more than 4 miles. Occasionally, bike riding that much  has been a pain in the rear. But driving my car to work has often been been a bigger pain in the rear.</p>
<p>You sit on a freeway, and then roll a few inches and stop&#8230; Roll a few inches and stop. Roll a few inches and stop&#8230;  &#8230;Then the ambulance and police car squeeze by to scoop up the pieces of car and driver off the pavement, because the driver thought that text-messaging was more important than watching what he was doing. Then we roll slowly past the flatbed with the big smashed-up pop can being loaded up&#8230; and everybody gawks.<br />
And we call this efficient? Ok&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13759</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13759</guid>
		<description>Plenty of 'elderly' cyclists are kicking butt. And kicking MY butt, too. I consider myself a decent cyclist, but there are many times I have been passed up by someone old enough to be my dad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plenty of &#8216;elderly&#8217; cyclists are kicking butt. And kicking MY butt, too. I consider myself a decent cyclist, but there are many times I have been passed up by someone old enough to be my dad.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13753</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13753</guid>
		<description>DGB Says:

First of all, everyone hates buses. They are slow, they impede the flow of traffic, and one is stuck in the presence with any kind of ‘trash / bums / nut jobs / gang bangers’.

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I'm calling DGB on this one.  It's a clear example of the ignorance and bigotry that's far too prevalent in our society.  Care to hop on a bus and tell folks they're just dirtbag gangbangers?

This is disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DGB Says:</p>
<p>First of all, everyone hates buses. They are slow, they impede the flow of traffic, and one is stuck in the presence with any kind of ‘trash / bums / nut jobs / gang bangers’.</p>
<p>==================</p>
<p>I&#8217;m calling DGB on this one.  It&#8217;s a clear example of the ignorance and bigotry that&#8217;s far too prevalent in our society.  Care to hop on a bus and tell folks they&#8217;re just dirtbag gangbangers?</p>
<p>This is disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: Matty</title>
		<link>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13743</link>
		<dc:creator>Matty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13743</guid>
		<description>DGB likes to find excuses to defend his 1950's vision of the world.  That's OK, but maybe he should check out this senior citizen bicycle program in Portland, OR: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eh_TD5nBOY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DGB likes to find excuses to defend his 1950&#8217;s vision of the world.  That&#8217;s OK, but maybe he should check out this senior citizen bicycle program in Portland, OR: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eh_TD5nBOY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eh_TD5nBOY</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
		<link>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13730</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13730</guid>
		<description>Why are the elderly always brought up as a problem with cycling in this country?  Is it a problem to stay in good health until old age?  I suppose so since we have a problem doing it at any point in our lives now....  What is considered elderly anyway?
http://english.sina.com/p/1/2008/0306/149015.html

Interesting solution to the 'elderly' problem: http://www.flickr.com/photos/16nine/273333432/in/photostream/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are the elderly always brought up as a problem with cycling in this country?  Is it a problem to stay in good health until old age?  I suppose so since we have a problem doing it at any point in our lives now&#8230;.  What is considered elderly anyway?<br />
<a href="http://english.sina.com/p/1/2008/0306/149015.html" rel="nofollow">http://english.sina.com/p/1/2008/0306/149015.html</a></p>
<p>Interesting solution to the &#8216;elderly&#8217; problem: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/16nine/273333432/in/photostream/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/16nine/273333432/in/photostream/</a></p>
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		<title>By: barryS</title>
		<link>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13721</link>
		<dc:creator>barryS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/05/12/the-great-commuter-challenge-im-a-loser-baby/#comment-13721</guid>
		<description>That article does make one fair note - the bike coalition is only trying to point out that for trips of less than 4 miles - bikes can and will win the race a lot of the time.  Obviously for longer trips, cars, buses, or trains are more practical if time is a limiting factor for you.

DGB - All I know is that *you* think these kinds of comparisons are worth nothing. There is no "we" in your argument, just you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That article does make one fair note - the bike coalition is only trying to point out that for trips of less than 4 miles - bikes can and will win the race a lot of the time.  Obviously for longer trips, cars, buses, or trains are more practical if time is a limiting factor for you.</p>
<p>DGB - All I know is that *you* think these kinds of comparisons are worth nothing. There is no &#8220;we&#8221; in your argument, just you.</p>
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